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We have met or exceeded every resource limit Firebase has, 1000% of the monthly limit and 100% of concurrently connected users.
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chattable's avatar chattable 1 month ago

If you are still using Chattable at this time, expect chats to not render on some page loads (because of connection queues) and double rendering of all messages (known issue on my end, happens during high traffic)

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kuroi's avatar kuroi 1 month ago

Was the limit for february reached or for march already? I thought it was already at the limit when the chat was down for a few days this month. The traffic has been really high for sure

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chattable's avatar chattable 1 month ago

Kuroi, brother, I don't even know. The limit for March hasn't been reached because the limit is supposed to be a full-stop when met. Like, when I reach this monthly limit it's supposed to full stop until it resets... but it didn't. Next month my limits will reset, they'll be the same limits but with a new balance at 0 bytes of data downloaded. Firebase rules seem to just be ignored for my project, however,

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chattable's avatar chattable 1 month ago

The concurrent active user limit seems to be harshly enforced. 100 users at any given time. If 100 users are online (including anons across all chats), other users will see a chat that is blank (no messages) when loading the page. It seems to be the only limit being enforced and there is absolutely 0 people online who have reported similar behavior.

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chattable's avatar chattable 1 month ago

According to Firebase: I'm allowed 360mb of download per day. I'm at 100+ GB of download for this month. It's been 25 days. Do the math, and you'll notice something is wrong. I have no idea how or why Chattable is able to send or receive messages still, this month has a recorded 224,000 monthly active user which is an all time high.

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win1999's avatar win1999 1 month ago

I can't begin to imagine what it's like to host so many users, but have you thought about moving to a dedicated server (i use railway). A simple Node.js server with socket.io might suffice, for little money. You could also optimize your queries and think about implementing throttling, if you are still have griefers? Apologies if this all sounds obvious or unreasonable, just wanting to help :)

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darn firebase
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It's -22° outside. There's exploding trees, boogers frozen on contact, and you can't breathe the air outside. What a world.
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nova-the-proot's avatar nova-the-proot 2 months ago

We finally found the 'dystopian future' shown in sci-fi stuff and games. Theres a good reason it was originally fiction.

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Sooo, we hit our monthly download limit on the database 3 days ago (104% currently) but we're still online. Curious. Thanks, Firebase?
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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

Still planning on re-enabling most features on Feb 1st regardless of this

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PSA: An outage is expected from January 23, 2026 to January 31, 2026 due to hitting hard monthly limits set by Firebase. The attacks between the 1st-3rd used 86% of the free monthly bandwidth limit. We're sitting at 94% currently without any attacks since. With expectations to hit 100% on the 23rd or 24th
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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

To combat this, anon account creations are also disabled. What this means for you: New visitors to your site won't be able to read your chat though they can still send messages due to the server processing that and not the client.

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

By February 1st, all services will be restored except email sign up & chat creation. The project will remain on the free plan and will remain subject to daily limits as mentioned in the article below https://iframe.chat/updates/article/shutdown-info.html

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

I am also aware of being unable to login from your chat, I may work on this later. If you're tech savvy enough, you can copy your Firebase login/account cookie from the dashboard to your website (or your chat) then you won't need to sign in.

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An important update for all chat owners: https://iframe.chat/updates/article/shutdown-info.html
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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

tfw i uploaded with no article title. nice. fixing now

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rampkins's avatar rampkins 2 months ago

I don't use it personally, but isn't that a damn shame

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kyrn0v's avatar kyrn0v 2 months ago

So sorry this is happening. You will figure it out I know it :]

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finalfantasyix's avatar finalfantasyix 2 months ago

thanks so much for all the work you've put into maintaining chattable for so long. very sad to see it go :(

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tommypanzram's avatar tommypanzram 2 months ago

Totally fair and understandable update. Hate that it got to this point but you have a solid project that is really well made. Not for nothing, but have you ever considered making the back end a docker container for users to have the option for self-hosting? Might sound like overkill but I'm having a hard time finding an alternative. The simplicity of yours isn't really matched and that's what I like most about it.

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ne0nbandit's avatar ne0nbandit 2 months ago

Thank you for the update :( I'm sorry stuff has been so rough to maintain.. You mentioned downgrading to the free plan database and I'm wondering if maybe there could be a way the admin could host their own database? At least to aleviate some of that burden

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ne0nbandit's avatar ne0nbandit 2 months ago

I perfectly understand if this would require a lot of code rewriting and whatnot though!

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sugarfantasies's avatar sugarfantasies 2 months ago

such a shame seeing this go, hope it gets better. Is there a way to donate? Because I know if i could i would

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kirbydogs's avatar kirbydogs 2 months ago

Please open the donations back up. I wish to help you out, even if it isn't with Chattable.

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sanji's avatar sanji 2 months ago

thank you for all your hard work :( i'm sorry things have had to turn out this way

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

@tommypanzram unfortunately dockerization isn't a viable alternative. While it would work to clone most of Chattable you'd still need to setup a Firebase account with specific configurations across auth & rtdb, and then you'd need to edit front & backend code to point everything to the new database. Which isn't something I plan to provide support on

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fryman2599's avatar fryman2599 2 months ago

thanks for all the fun times, im will miss you chattable :(

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lilithdev's avatar lilithdev 2 months ago

I am really glad to see that Chattable will continue! Downgrading to a free tier plan is kinda genius.

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abberation's avatar abberation 2 months ago

Oh my god, this makes me so sad :( Chattable was such an amazing service and it's so sad to see that some people just want to ruin everything for no reason.

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

We are approaching some hard monthly limits. The first 3 days of January consumed 85% of the monthly hard limit for resources. Chattable will have to stretch the remaining 15% of resources for the rest of the month to remain online

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

To alleviate this, new accounts are disabled. This means no person can sign up and new anonymous users can't read chats. This will be reverted next month.

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datoxicwaltz's avatar datoxicwaltz 2 months ago

your project was the best free chat to use i really hope this doesnt mean the end...

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pearliasystem's avatar pearliasystem 2 months ago

Thank you for the incredible work you've done on this project over the years. It's a shame that bad actors have ruined such a great resource. We will support you in your future endeavors either way!

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A user with the email criansari3@gmail.com (IP: 67.190.30.191) has been attacking our Firebase database relentlessly for weeks now. Since the new year, attacks have ramped up and accrued costs of $7.50 in just 3 days. At that rate, it would be expected that it would cost $75/month to keep the database online. Being that Chattable is a free project funded by my own paycheck, this is unsustainable.
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chattable's avatar chattable 3 months ago

The database will remain down until further notice.

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tommypanzram's avatar tommypanzram 3 months ago

Cloudflare an option you're open to? I know their free plan has ddos protection.

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tommypanzram's avatar tommypanzram 3 months ago

Also, Discord?

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kyrn0v's avatar kyrn0v 3 months ago

NOOO I was just planning to add a chatbox :<

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win1999's avatar win1999 3 months ago

Have you reached out to Google/Firebase on the matter? Can't you ban their IP/email?

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chattable's avatar chattable 3 months ago

I have reached out to Firebase, the attacker has been jumping VPNs since their home IP was leaked. Firebase won't do anything, Firebase also can't be looped through cloudfare, the server is fine but the database is hosted by Firebase which offers no spam protection

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chattable's avatar chattable 3 months ago

The only real option is to prevent the public from reading chat data directly from the database and loop all read requests through my server. I did this with writes when I switched to a backend. So expect a similar amount of downtime since then

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win1999's avatar win1999 3 months ago

Hmmm. You could 1) Firebase App Check. A good way to block scripts/bots regardless of their VPN 2) Backend Proxy. Moving reads to your backend, and then you could use Cloudfare Free Bot Shield 3) UID Ban in Rules. Hardcode a "deny" in your security rules? Firebase wont charge for requests blocked by rules.

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kirbydogs's avatar kirbydogs 3 months ago

* This Immovable Object Must Be: Terminated * I Don't Have Any Cages LMAO

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kiwimeowo's avatar kiwimeowo 3 months ago

I thought I messed up my code, but it's apparently broken on all of chattable? I hope this issue will be resolved soon, good luck!

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kuroi's avatar kuroi 3 months ago

Can someone please explain to me why, WHY is someone attacking a free chat tool FOR WEEKS? Hope you can sort this out soon :/

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chattable's avatar chattable 3 months ago

The following steps will be to migrate from Firebase and fully host the database on my server. Bear with me, as it will be a lengthy process leaving Firebase. If you need any data (chat data or account data) from our database (or want it removed) email us

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onio's avatar onio 2 months ago

So sorry Andrew :/

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everythingkris's avatar everythingkris 2 months ago

Why the flip would somebody attack a free service like this? Sorry you have to go through this Andrew.

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lindley's avatar lindley 2 months ago

so sorry this is happening!! hope you can figure it out soon, big chattable fan over here :)

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

To put into perspective, with tens of thousands of users costs usually float around $0.03/day or $0.40/month for the database alone. I also have to maintain server costs, domain costs, private email costs, and more

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tommypanzram's avatar tommypanzram 2 months ago

What would 1 year of operations costs be for you, all things considered?

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

Without the attacks, all costs considered rounds up to about $810/yr ($65/mo for my server, $15 for yearly domain registration, $15 for email, and $10 maybe for database costs) however, with attacks inflating costs for Firebase due to excessive logins & reads, that adds $75/mo which adds another $900 annually. Not something I'd ask the public to fund. It's best to solve the problem than succumb and pay.

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

That's only to mention $75 at the current rate of attacks, if an attacker had more machines they could exponentially inflate these numbers even more

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phelah's avatar phelah 2 months ago

Oh hey wait, are you sure you should've put their Ip and email publicly here? Not trying to accuse you of anything I'm just curious if putting this information could lead to people finding them. It doesn't make sense why somebody would attack a free service like this, I'm genuinly curious why.

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tommypanzram's avatar tommypanzram 2 months ago

Holy crap, dude please set up a patreon or other monthly contribution page. A reward could be as simple as access to a community discord. I admire you for providing a free service, but you don't have to take on that financial burdon to provide it. I know you have a ko-fi link on your page but a $1 per month subscription seems like it could be more reliable than a one-time $10 donation.

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pastel-skies's avatar pastel-skies 2 months ago

Shiiii I thought Chattable was just broken, knowing a bad apple has been DDosing Chattable is just vile... hoping you can find a way to fix this mess, even if it means donating to help!

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doggyhell's avatar doggyhell 2 months ago

sorry to hear youve been dealing with hell for no reason besides someone deciding to be malicious. we appreciate your free service dev!

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chattable's avatar chattable 2 months ago

ETA: I have no timeline for this. With a change of work hours last year and a lack of motivation on my days off, paired with the amount of time & effort required to rewrite as much as I need to (to patch the abusable exploit) I just can not faithfully provide an ETA. It could be days, or months.

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UEE HEE HEE! THE CHATTABLE IS BROKEN, BROKEN!!! THE [[Free Chat]] IS BROKE!! OH, DEARIE, THE CHATTING PLATFORM IS BROKEN! HEE HEE HEE! YOU REALLY ARE AN IDIOT! Update: Oh not attacks >:| god it's that stupid brat isn't it (also why is Flowey here?)
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underwhite's avatar underwhite 2 months ago

I think it's jevil pretending to be spamton

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kirbydogs's avatar kirbydogs 2 months ago

wait are we just ignoring the very obvious mettaton

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Lore drop: Chattable started in 2020 originally as a personal project for my own websites. I wanted something modular where I could use it across any of my sites. Eventually, in 2021 Chattable joined Neocities as a public service for anyone to use.
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We received a threatening email from a user who is upset they can't read private messages as a mod/owner of their chats
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chattable's avatar chattable 3 months ago

I want to emphasize my commitment to user privacy and will not explicitly allow mods or owners to peek at other people's private conversations.

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kuroi's avatar kuroi 3 months ago

You won't let me invade people's privacy? How dare you? Lol people are insane

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When the hyperfixation changes and you switch to your other projects 👉🏻👈🏻
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bevweb's avatar bevweb 3 months ago

this is so real thoughhh i can never focus on one project for more than like a week at a time

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roseverdict's avatar roseverdict 3 months ago

valid af tbh

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pantalonielettrici's avatar pantalonielettrici 3 months ago

maybe we all have undiagnosed ADHD

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chattable's avatar chattable 3 months ago

Truth be told, I was diagnosed as a kid but as I grow older I think most ADHD symptoms are symptoms of just being human and that the diagnosis itself was invented to sell pharmaceuticals.

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snailguy's avatar snailguy 3 months ago

I agree with the comment above me. Moneyyyy, get awaaay.

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https://beta.iframe.chat/discover (trying something new)
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fryman2599's avatar fryman2599 4 months ago

woah this is so cool :D

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This Thanksgiving, I'm particularly thankful for all of my 219 followers! Thank you Dexaroth, Onio, Kuroi, InvincibleSpeed, Kirbydogs, iSmile, Beetle3000, Hannah (from iwishyouroses & planetpearlia), Greenbox, LilithDev, Miyo / Scripted, Mysteriz / Phelah, TheGibusGuy, Kali (from drinkmoretea), kkb, datoxicwaltz, catarinha, n-has-a-site, Idenified (Iden), lakestheguy, fileto, blankbarrel, ruralrose, Fryman2599,
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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

And also thanks to hhroses, Bisha, Tapeykatt, wayrift, sanji, colorworld, bruisedgh0st, jlehr, possiblymatt, voidpain, xsolimini, thegportal, ughbees, isnt real (definitely is), myrrh, burgeritchi. melody-nomas, lemontchi, win1999, strawbebby228, slaid, featherfae, duckdev, sewerwolfx, ecka, lunamilk, 404city, nactivagant, obspogon, j0ner, chimerathing,

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

femtanyl03, disasterpiece, bielzin, deoxysacid, thegrunklezone, dollzrevival, lockheartlove, teenagegirlboy, maddoxxing, wg2k, superkirbylover (not to be mistaken as Kirbydogs), abbys-notebook, lindley, violetradd, happyniss, starbage, caramelpuddinz, abberation, icandoanything, niceware, dudalog, robinchili, 2000sdreamvault, crystalclearcrystalline, a-normal-site,

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

coder5003, hyperlinkadventure, literallyfictional, blueazul, reaperman, huecycles, showmelove, webbersite, unacarceldelocos, hamaonoverdrive, shapeguy, antique-bandit-interactive, vomitcoretrilogy, everythingkris, pankine, seunglixe, blackrabbitden, psyop-26, kingphenomenon, hypervigil, pawzeptum, sava28, raisondetre, monotonousreign, disctwo, kikita, a-rainy-mess, kabannoneko,

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

roseverdict, jadebread64, arcade90, soggysyyrup, 1funeral2many, jayviknation, kyrn0v, enderwebs, kalev2005, pillbugs, niicespiice, coastalx, angerbaby, peepo, slad3r, angrydroid, angels-den, mimicrune, ilovespreadingmisinformation (based username btw), gogodbalive, theodoreholiday, vincesdesktop, another-other, ambien, dymaxion, tashafofo, camfan, literature-kei, sourcreamkok, phailsnail,

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

cutdoctor, taintedpath, iloush, richardnyxon, do0dlebear, lyon-debug, sun-beams, faeworks, paradice, tubopossum, draconet, autumnpawsome, deadonrip, lasairfhiona, viidda, softatrocity, androbeanie, rotlichlives, glitchednpc, punk-trash, madcapsulez, mmmunia, hermenaut, timeleaf, glorpcore-radio, lain-pix, samarav, heistskid, gennysworld, watercurses, dlj-rad-art, in-wonder, birdgames,

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

msnicelupe, msp5, eduworkplace, to-the-farlands, 3130, nexyte, northwolf, maxisdenoth, neuralnetspace, redpotion, rylie-cloud, pearlyverse24, oops-i-fell-in-a-pond, gardenofstardust, sukugosex, bleeh, ilouzya, Cain (from rottingrafflesia), darlingdollies-diary, noircities, shoujowiki, pucha1985, hollowmybones, bluejaybard, studiofitforroyalty, brodis-site, torpid,

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

And last but certainly not least, affectioninspections, casketkiss, mothsnest, tiertournament, tvug, 0rion1337, blueofthevalley, thedroidcafe, ghosts-kin-site, school-is-boring, fictionaffectsreality, semiroboticperson, and taylorscorkboard!

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chattable's avatar chattable 4 months ago

That's roughly 219 thank yous! Let me know if i missed anyone!

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kuroi's avatar kuroi 4 months ago

Thank YOU for creating and maintaining this amazing tool for us (⁠☆⁠▽⁠☆⁠)

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tapeykatt's avatar tapeykatt 4 months ago

Thanks for being the best chat widget ever

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blankbarrel's avatar blankbarrel 4 months ago

This's been one of the best tools avilable for static sites dude, thank you for hosting it. also MERRY CHRISTMAS LOLE!!!

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maddoxxing's avatar maddoxxing 4 months ago

brother thank YOU you are a real one.

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kirbydogs's avatar kirbydogs 4 months ago

Hello, Human Here! Instert Inspiring Quote. As Always, A Jolly Good Thank You From A Real Human From Groogle. (Sent with GenAIBot) Jokes aside, wow! You are amazing! Have a happy Thanksgiving/X-Mas/New Year!

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thegrunklezone's avatar thegrunklezone 4 months ago

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! THANKS FOR BUILDING SUCH A FIRE CHAT BOX ^^!!!

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phelah's avatar phelah 3 months ago

Thank you too! I love Chattable!

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Deleted my last post. May have gotten ahead of myself on an update but I need to wait until each client is updated before I can announce anything 👻
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New message bubble bee pfp??? :o
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